[personal profile] jenett
Welcome to our second salon discussion thread. Wander in, invite a friend along, and chat! (Not sure what's going on? Here, have a brief FAQ.) The first one went swimmingly! People! Talking! About awesome stuff! Feel free to talk about anything: my topic of the day is just to get us started.

Some of the comments in last week's thread got me thinking about the little stuff we do to make dealing with the world easier for us (lifehacks). And then why. Some stuff I do (briefly, on the theory it might encourage conversation)

1) I am very boring about my clothing. (basically, a black skirt and coloured knit top, or a coloured skirt and a black knit top.) Except for special occasion clothing, it is all cotton, it all goes in the wash together, and I basically only have to think about it when I want to. When I want to be fancier, that's what jewelry is for.

2) I do not have glasses in my house. I have pottery mugs. I am less likely to drop them (yay, handles) and if I do, they break into bigger and much less transparent pieces. (I am not as clumsy as I was during the worst of the medical foo, but, y'know. It's still useful.)

3) I have no idea what I did before a smartphone, which for me is less phone, and more "thing that fills at least a dozen other needs, but is only one thing to keep track of, plus more than enough books to keep even *me* occupied for a while, and oh, yeah, occasionally it makes phone calls.")

4) I periodically write up a document called "The care and feeding of Jenetts (or at least this one)" designed to help people navigate spending time with me. I had hoped to have a sample here but a) the week got away from me a bit and there was other stuff that had to take priority and b) some bits of it need to go under access lock. (For those who can see my locked posts, I expect to finish it by the end of the week.)

Anyway, this includes things like methods of communication, privacy notes, basic health stuff, more in-depth health stuff (with a focus on "Here's what you need to know so we can enjoy time together."), things I like as presents, things I'm really bad at doing, foods I eat and don't eat (and a brief "why" so people can figure out which bits really apply in a given setting), and stuff people should know if they want to visit me.

What stuff do you do? I'm especially curious about anything where you do it and other people look at you and blink and then go "Oh, that's an awesome idea!" (I've had that with my mugs, for example.)

(A word on advice: please don't give it in this discussion unless someone asks for it. A bunch of people I know will read this have Complicated Stuff, and I trust that they have found solutions that work for them for reasons that work for them. That said, if you'd like advice, go ahead and ask for it!)

Music in the background: Last week's salon had a lot to say about the topic of music, and it got me thinking about listening to the stuff that connects us to the universe. So, on my playlist for this week's salon are "One Voice" by the Wailin' Jennys, "All Will Be Well" by Meg Barnhouse, "Brave" by Sarah Bareilles, "Allegria" by Cirque du Soleil and "Give us room to roar" from Ruth Mackenzie's Kalevala: Dream of the Salmon Maiden.

A quick reminder
As noted, the basic thing here is 'leave the conversation better than you found it, or at least not worse'. The FAQ has more help with your choices for comment (DW account, OpenID account, or anonymously) if you need a hand. Or ask, and someone (likely me, but maybe not) will be along to help. We'll work everything else out as we go.

Date: 2013-06-12 07:00 pm (UTC)
zhelana: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zhelana

Sometimes I'll touch my ear when I say, "what?" to try to indicate it's hearing not comprehending. That usually works, but sometimes not.

Date: 2013-06-12 07:09 pm (UTC)
finch: (Default)
From: [personal profile] finch

That's a good idea. I'll have to try to do that and see if I can make it a habit. :) Thanks.

Date: 2013-06-12 10:37 pm (UTC)
elisem: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elisem
Zhelana's idea is a useful one, I think.

The problem I run into outside of Known People is a little different: some people interpret "What?" as "I disagree with what you said! How could you say such a thing? Are you a fool?" or something like that. And that does not lead to easy conversation.

Date: 2013-06-12 10:41 pm (UTC)
finch: (Default)
From: [personal profile] finch

Oh wow, yeah, I can see how that would turn into an unpleasant conversation very quickly. I wonder if that's a regional thing, and maybe a different word choice like "excuse me?" would help?

Date: 2013-06-12 10:50 pm (UTC)
elisem: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elisem
The same thing happened with "Excuse me" except then they assumed they had offended me. However, it turned out that switching to "Say what?" or "Say what, sorry?" worked pretty good, so I go with that if there starts to be trouble with the other ones. Just plain "Sorry?" works pretty well too.

Keeping a nice neutral tone, a sort of "brisk and worn-by-repetition-to-mechanicalness" tone, helped too, I think.

Date: 2013-06-13 02:23 am (UTC)
kyrielle: painterly drawing of a white woman with large dark-blue-framed glasses, hazel eyes, brown hair, and a suspicious lack of blemishes (Default)
From: [personal profile] kyrielle
...I was going to say everything I could think of could be misinterpreted that same way, and I came back to find you had given one that I don't think can. ROCK. Because I somewhat need this too. It is very frustrating to be missing one (critical!) word and say "What?" and get an expanation. Or worse, CONTEXT.

"Blah blah blah blah." "What?" "Well, you know, because of the farm visit this weekend...."

Me: "..."

Date: 2013-06-13 01:05 am (UTC)
mrissa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrissa
I have had this experience with Other Monkeys also. It's quite bad enough without a hearing loss, and I think with one it would be far, far worse.

Other Monkeys are pretty poor stuff sometimes.

Date: 2013-06-13 03:53 am (UTC)
elisem: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elisem
Oh, the Other Monkeys. So very yes.

What worries me sometimes is that I just know I'm being somebody else's Other Monkey.

Date: 2013-06-13 01:35 pm (UTC)
mrissa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrissa
Yeah, I know. We just have to do the best we can with that one, I guess. My brain wanted to write a thing called "Everybody's Someone Else's Monkey," but that different, and putting "Other" in there tips the scansion off.

If I had a nickel for every time I said, "Scansion is a harsh mistress...."

Date: 2013-06-13 04:29 pm (UTC)
kiya: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kiya
... I am now mildly earwormed with "Everybody's Got Something To Hide 'Cept For Me And My Monkey"...

Date: 2013-06-13 04:48 pm (UTC)
kyrielle: painterly drawing of a white woman with large dark-blue-framed glasses, hazel eyes, brown hair, and a suspicious lack of blemishes (Default)
From: [personal profile] kyrielle
"Everybody's Someone's Other Monkey"? ;)
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