[personal profile] jenett
Welcome to our fifth salon discussion thread. Wander in, invite a friend to come along, and chat! (Not sure what's going on? Here, have a brief FAQ.) The first three went wonderfully - you can find them in my salon tag. Please take a quick look at the reminders at the bottom of this post, too.

Topic of the day: What do you have in your pocketses? Or to be more useful, what stuff do you carry with you? I ask partly because I want to talk about what I have with me, but also because I'm contemplating being more systematic about some of it, and I suspect you all will have interesting ideas.

My usual bag is either a backpack (if I'm walking to work) or a small messenger bag. (My backpack is Tom Bihn'sSynapse 19, and my smaller messenger bag is their Medium Cafe bag. They wear amazingly well, come in nice colours, and have pockets and interior design that make me immensely happy. I own various others from them.)

What I usually have in my pockets at the moment is my keys (work key, house key, car key, car key fob) in the left, and my iPhone in the right. What I usually have in my bag is my asthma inhaler, a pen, and a few other minor things.

I'd like to do better. Things I'm currently contemplating include:
* Minor first aid kit (ibuprofen, several sizes of things to put on cuts or blisters, etc.)
* Whether I want to get some sort of pocket tool. In specific, the thing I need most and don't always have handy is stuff for opening computer cases/removing components. (And, y'know, in case of zombie apocalypse or getting stranded in back woods rural highway, a small knife blade and scissors and such wouldn't exactly be a *bad* idea)
* A small actually useful sewing kit (which probably means putting it together myself. because the pre-made ones never make sense to me.)
* Some combo of other useful self-care stuff. (Portable "I need food" object? I usually have a water bottle with me.) Lip balm. That kind of thing.
* A USB with useful stuff on it. (I have been creating one of these for work, with things I use all the time, but I could probably stand to have a personal one.)

Music in the background: I am very much about the comfort listening this week, which lead to my creating a playlist of Enya and Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition and Yo-Yo Ma playing Bach cello suites. (Look, I'm a person whose comfort reading has long included Evelyn Waugh's Brideshead Revisited. I never claimed to be normal about these things. Whatever normal is.)

Other possible topics: (plus whatever you suggest!)
* The annoyances of weather. (Weather is my current most annoying migraine trigger: it threw me for a loop Monday. I am still cranky.)

* Ways you make things like waiting for laundry at the laundromat or waiting for car repairs more enjoyable. (Guess what I'm doing this week.) Both places are noisy enough that complicated reading is not generally viable. Neither place has wi-fi, so if I want Internet, I am limited to my phone, and neither has a table, so I can't type easily. And neither has somewhere near enough by I could go grab coffee and sit there instead.)

* Nifty things you have read/watched/listened to this week/month/year and why we ought to check them out.

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Date: 2013-07-03 01:35 pm (UTC)
eeeeka: A time lapse photo of a lighthouse at night. (Default)
From: [personal profile] eeeeka
Stuff I carry with me:
Purse with wallet, keys, small bag of things I need to carry with me (inhaler, ibuprofen, chapstick, nail clippers, nail file, couple of hair elastics, used to have an epi-pen, but don't need that anymore, thankfully), phone, iPod, iPad, small cross-stitch project. Given that my bag is only 12x4x8" or so, it's kind of packed. I need to get a smaller wallet, which will help immensely.

I don't usually have pockets because women's clothing is stupid, so I can't carry anything there.

Date: 2013-07-03 01:51 pm (UTC)
untonuggan: Black and White Image with a mug, text reads "Come let us have some tea  and continue to talk about happy things" (tea happy things)
From: [personal profile] untonuggan
What is UP with the no pockets thing? I don't care if it messes with the "lines" or "shape" of a garment. Particularly not if it's frelling exercise pants or something which I'm going to look sweaty and gross in anyway. And it would be nice to carry, you know, my music player in a pocket without resorting to one of those arm things.

We wantsss pocketses precioussss, pocketses.

Date: 2013-07-03 04:09 pm (UTC)
eeeeka: A time lapse photo of a lighthouse at night. (Default)
From: [personal profile] eeeeka
I'm at my desk almost all the time, so no pockets is less of an issue. I can clip my pass to just about anything, so I can still move about the building. BUT, hello, pockets are not just for men!

Date: 2013-07-03 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] houseboatonstyx
At home I usually have no pockets, because I'm too lazy to put them in the comfortable sloppy distopian tunics I make for housedresses.

So in cool weather I wear a man's or unisex vest with big pockets with zippers.

For summer I took a lightweight man's longsleeved shirt, closed the ends of the sleeves which made them like bags, made a lengthwise slit above teh cuffs, and use those bags as pockets. Wear it around the shoulders yuppie style, or around the waist like the guy in MEN IN BLACK, depending on temperature. When I get around to it, I'll turn up the bottom of the shirt to make big pockets like in a workman's apron.

What I keep in those sleeves/bags is memo recorder, basic keys, candy, lip balm, small items on the way from one place to another, and cell phone (in a plastic sleeve with a replica of drivers license and car insurance cards, in case I drive to a neighbor's without my purse, and sometimes a $20 bill).

When I go to town, I transfer the memo recorder and phone to a regular purse kind of like a small Baggallini, with compartments for all the above plus checkbook, credit cards, small comb, money, pen and pencil, memo paper, pill box with dog treats, wristwatch, pocket knife, spare AAA batteries for the recorder, more keys, space for receipts and folded letters etc that I need to take in somewhere to show someone, etc. This is the bag that I take into stores, meetings, etc.

Dangling from this nice purse is a net bag of adjustable size, for temporary things that don't fit in the purse, such as small water bottle.

In the car lives a medium size shapeless bag of replaceable stuff. Big comb, emergency recharger for the cell (holding 4 AA batteries). Things I might want in the car but don't want to carry into stores etc. It's black and hides on the floor behind the seat. If this were larger and the nice purse would fit into it on occasion, I could say everything was nestable, but it isn't, quite.

Date: 2013-07-04 02:24 am (UTC)
cadenzamuse: (Liara: girl with a gun)
From: [personal profile] cadenzamuse
I have sometimes been tempted to buy/make pockets like ladies used to wear under skirts in Ye Olde History. (I'm being vague and lazy and hoping you know what I mean.) Then I could just cut slits in ALLLL The Things rather than putting pockets in, and voila, pretty clothes that are also practical! Although I am getting more and more like [personal profile] jenett about not buying things that don't have pockets, even dresses and skirts. And Partner has taught me the wisdom of "nothing that can't be tossed in the washing machine," which helps narrow down the Pretty Fancy Femme Girly clothes that I want into Things I Will Wear More Than Once Without Then Throwing Into A Pile To Go To The Drycleaners In Six Months.

Date: 2013-07-04 02:23 pm (UTC)
untonuggan: A black-and-white photo of a Victorian woman (victorian lady)
From: [personal profile] untonuggan
I used to be firmly in the camp of "nothing that can't go in the washing machine," and then I actually discovered that I kind of like hand washing clothes. I don't know. It's weird. Maybe it's that I only like hand washing cute clothes from thrift stores that I have rescued and/or things I have made myself. But honestly, omg, Soak changed my life. And what changed it more was realizing I could do basically the same thing with shampoo. (Way cheaper.)

My two problems are when other people mistakenly throw things in the wash, or I run out of drying space. XD

utility belts for women: I want this so badly

Date: 2013-07-04 12:43 pm (UTC)
jjhunter: Drawing of human JJ in ink tinted with blue watercolor; woman wearing glasses with arched eyebrows (JJ inked)
From: [personal profile] jjhunter
In the fic 'All the Other Ghosts', one of the protagonists works in fashion for his day job designing superhero-inspired stuff for everyday use; there's this great exchange that he has in particular in Chapter Two that I keep coming back to, keep wanting someone to make reality in our reality:
Sophie taps the dot at the end of the sentence and looks at him over her designer glasses. "You seriously want to market utility belts at women."

He shrugs, holds his hands out. "It's a vicious circle. Women's clothes don't have pockets. So women have to carry bags to put everything they need in, but because they always carry bags no-one bothers to add pockets to clothes. And just sticking pockets on doesn't make the same point. These are strong, they're sturdy, they're difficult to steal, it's easy as hell to pull a bag off someone's shoulder -"

"You're speaking from experience?"

He rolls his eyes to the ceiling. "I have girl friends. These make women feel competent and prepared and strong. We can make elegant little ones for eveningwear. Just a couple of pockets. Imagine how they'd look slung around a long dress -"
Mm, yes please. We wants it, preciousssss.
Edited (added a subject header) Date: 2013-07-04 12:44 pm (UTC)

Re: utility belts for women: I want this so badly

Date: 2013-07-04 06:25 pm (UTC)
stormyhearted: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stormyhearted
I don't know if you ever shop on Etsy, but a search for 'utility belt' brings up quite a few options. I was looking at them yesterday after reading this thread, actually! It's Etsy, so there's plenty of ugly fanny-pack styled ones, but there are also some really gorgeous options, too.

Re: utility belts for women: I want this so badly

Date: 2013-07-04 06:39 pm (UTC)
jjhunter: Drawing of human J.J. in red and brown inks with steampunk goggle glasses (red J.J. inked)
From: [personal profile] jjhunter
Oh wow! Thank you so much for letting me know. :o)

Re: utility belts for women: I want this so badly

Date: 2013-07-07 02:11 am (UTC)
elisem: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elisem
I just bought a set of Spare Pockets yesterday from Alt.kilt at a convention. Already owned a couple of single pockets, but she doesn't seem to have those on the website at this point, though they're available at conventions. Her stuff is addictive. I wore the Spare Pockets and one of the single pockets on my belt today over a brown bustle skirt, and a significant number of the men at the GLBT conference (I'm attending two conventions this weekend, going back and forth) were all oohing and aahing over them.

Re: utility belts for women: I want this so badly

Date: 2013-07-07 02:28 am (UTC)
jjhunter: profile of human J.J. with goggles and a band of gears running down her face; inked in reds and browns (steampunk J.J.)
From: [personal profile] jjhunter
*bookmarks*

When I have money again, yes yes yes (and thank you).

Date: 2013-07-03 03:51 pm (UTC)
mrissa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrissa
I am in this situation for pockets also. I have a few Athleta or Title Nine things with pockets in, but for the most part they are only useful pockets if I am, for example, at a con and want to have my credit card and room key. (At which point I might as well store them in my badge holder. Sigh.)

Date: 2013-07-03 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm the queen of storing things in my bra. This is not ideal by any stretch of the imagination.

Date: 2013-07-03 04:10 pm (UTC)
eeeeka: A time lapse photo of a lighthouse at night. (Default)
From: [personal profile] eeeeka
UGH! Stupid computer. That was me.

Date: 2013-07-03 04:45 pm (UTC)
mrissa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrissa
Oh! Okay, I thought I knew who it was, so...your majesty apparently has competition on the bra-storage phone.

Date: 2013-07-03 08:20 pm (UTC)
mrissa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrissa
FRONT. On the bra-storage FRONT, argh.

Date: 2013-07-04 04:38 pm (UTC)
kyrielle: painterly drawing of a white woman with large dark-blue-framed glasses, hazel eyes, brown hair, and a suspicious lack of blemishes (Default)
From: [personal profile] kyrielle
Hehe. You are not the only one. I do not use mine that way (with a nursing baby, he'd play with stuff I left in there anyway, lol), but I have relatives who do. The story of Aunt J's bra ringing during church is somewhat famous in the family....

Date: 2013-07-04 02:27 am (UTC)
cadenzamuse: (Girl Genius: mad science!)
From: [personal profile] cadenzamuse
It is not good for much else, but having Poland's Syndrome and thus being a size 32G (left) and B (right) means that I have a sizeable pocket in my right bra cup for storing things! I just wish it were less uncomfortable...
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