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jenett ([personal profile] jenett) wrote2013-06-28 18:51

Link roundup: reporting convention harassment

New links are now going in at a new post, because a) this one is long, and b) there is a natural change of events point.)

(Last edit: July 10, 2013, 7pm ET)

On June 28th, a post written by Elise Matthesen appeared on six blogs. She chose this way to release it both so that other people could help by managing comments, and also to get a wide distribution. (Several of them have multiple cross-posts: I've linked to all in that case so you can see various comments.)

ETA, 7/3/pm: A few notes, since this post has been getting linked around.

1) I am a good friend of Elise's and have been for a decade: I am not unbiased in this situation. (Mostly, be aware of that if you comment here.)

2) That said, with one exception, noted below, I have collected all of the links I can find in this post. Feel free to organise them more usefully, add additional summary information, etc. in your own online spaces. (Or to tell me about any I've missed: I'm running specific searches twice a day right now, but I'm sure there are some I'm missing.)

3) Because many of these posts talk about harassment, sexism, and other related topics, there may be triggering material in them. Due to the number of links, the rapidly increasing number of comments on some of them, and my own health and time limits, I'm not trying to do anything beyond occasional very brief notes when relevant. Read at your own discretion.

(I hope to put together a "If you read 10 posts about this topic, these are my top 10" sort of list sometime this weekend, but we'll see how that goes.)

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The six blogs are:
* Jim C. Hines: found at jimchines.com, LiveJournal, and Dreamwidth
* Mary Robinette Kowal: her blog: she also wrote a follow up post on naming, linked below that is of particular interest.
* Seanan McGuire: LiveJournal
* Brandon Sanderson his blog and BlogSpot (no comments at either)
* John Scalzi:his blog
* Chuck Wendig:his blog

At the moment, the most extensive discussion is at Scalzi's blog, but there is ongoing discussion everywhere else except Brandon Sanderson's (where I think commenting may be disabled, but I might be wrong.)

Twitter
Extensive discussion on Twitter in various directions. The most likely searches you might find helpful are Elise Mathesen, Elise Mattheson (common misspelling), Jim Frenkel, and @references to lionesselise (Elise's account name).

(If you are not familiar with the Twitter search results, you may want to click 'all' rather than 'top' where it says 'Tweets')

Original posters Twitter accounts (if you want to see conversations grow)
* https://twitter.com/BrandSanderson/
* https://twitter.com/ChuckWendig
* https://twitter.com/jimchines
* https://twitter.com/MaryRobinette
* https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/
* https://twitter.com/scalzi

Blog posts: namely, posts with either comments or additional comment/content/etc beyond signal boosting.
(At the time I put this post together - see 'last edit' on the top - the links below were all public, and I assume people are okay with my linking. If you'd like me to remove a link, just let me know. Where there's an 'and' between two links, it's the same person, usually at LiveJournal and Dreamwidth, or their own blog and a social media site.)

* Posts at the Wiscon discussion communities: http://wiscon.dreamwidth.org/89727.html and http://wiscon.livejournal.com/396382.html
* http://catherineldf.dreamwidth.org/311242.html and http://catherineldf.livejournal.com/316751.html (links to the post, but additional commentary on the issue of serial harassers and people supporting them.)
* http://stormsdotter.dreamwidth.org/752473.html and http://stormsdotter.livejournal.com/754331.html (comment conversation)
* http://ithiliana.dreamwidth.org/1733232.html (comment conversation)
* http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/why-am-i-afraid-to-name-the-editor/ - why naming the name was hard for her, but also necessary.
* http://james-nicoll.livejournal.com/4449834.html and http://james-davis-nicoll.dreamwidth.org/7380673.html (comments on the LiveJournal side)
* http://inspirandomonium.blogspot.com/2013/06/sexual-harrassment-at-conventions.html
* http://www.thingswithout.com/?comic=143-tanking-mumma-bear-part-1 (a relevant comic - read the notes)
* http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/2013/06/28/let-me-tell-you-a-story/ - a related story from 2002.
* http://www.cheriepriest.com/2013/06/28/maybe-its-just-us/ - extended commentary and comment.
* http://www.angelahighland.com/2013/06/28/this-week-in-sff-sexual-harassment-and-ongoing-sexism/ - this, and larger conversation about the male gaze.
* http://aliseadae.livejournal.com/240052.html - about being young and a new convention goer.
* http://strangeink.blogspot.com/2013/06/i-dont-take-my-sword-to-work.html
* http://mariadahvanaheadley.wordpress.com/2013/06/28/but-he-didnt-know-he-was-hijacking-your-ship-on-conference-creeps/
* http://lyda222.livejournal.com/308339.html
* http://groupthink.jezebel.com/sexual-harassment-in-the-sci-fi-community-614177379
* http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8269018 - AbsoluteWrite is a widely known writing forum.
* http://anotherplace.wordpress.com/2013/06/28/on-harassment-and-the-sff-genre/ - larger discussion of harassment in the genre.
* http://jinian.livejournal.com/577288.html and http://jinian.dreamwidth.org/576216.html (same post, comments turned off)

added June 29
* http://joycereynoldsward.com/my-two-cents-on-the-recent-sexism-sf-convention-harassment-controversy/
* http://catfordnz.blogspot.com/2013/06/things-i-am-angry-about-june-2013.html (larger discussion of recent events re: sexism and the SF genre)
* http://glvalentine.livejournal.com/373857.html (written earlier in the week, but several commenters have referenced it.)
* http://suricattus.livejournal.com/1665605.html
* http://users.livejournal.com/la_marquise_de_/356264.html - a repost of an older and relevant article about the topic.
* http://angriest.blogspot.com/2013/06/sexual-harrassment-at-science-fiction.html
* http://champagneandsocks.com/2013/06/29/its-not-just-them-over-there/
* http://plunderpuss.livejournal.com/119587.html
* http://nicoleandmaggie.wordpress.com/2013/06/29/link-love-74/

added June 29, afternoon
* http://www.thepassivevoice.com/06/2013/on-sexual-harassment-at-conventions-elise-mattheson-speaks-out/
* http://tansyrr.com/tansywp/sexual-harassment-at-sf-conventions/
* http://www.onelowerlight.com/writing/?p=8680

added June 29, evening
* http://leahbobet.livejournal.com/488650.html

added June 30, morning
* http://undulantfever.blogspot.com/2013/06/reporting-convention-harassment.html (expands on a comment in Scalzi's blog)
* http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/2013/06/29/opening-ranks/ - talks about the response, and notes some Twitter conversation.

added July 1 (including ones talking about the more general situation)
* http://madgeniusclub.com/2013/07/01/stuck-in-the-middle/
* http://ursulav.livejournal.com/1544668.html (extensive comments already) - also at http://www.redwombatstudio.com/blog/?p=5567
* http://clubjade.net/?p=51623
* http://mygoditsraining.co.uk/?p=1025
* http://triciasullivan.livejournal.com/141800.html
* http://carriecuinn.com/2013/06/30/please-stop-touching-my-breasts-and-other-things-i-say-at-cons/ (more general discussion)
* http://matociquala.livejournal.com/2192232.html

added July 1, evening
* http://sigridellis.wordpress.com/2013/07/01/convergence-safe-space-safe-people/
* http://sigridellis.wordpress.com/2013/06/28/how-to-report-sexual-harassment-by-elise-matthesen/
* http://skepchick.org/2013/07/skepchick-quickies-7-1-3
* http://carriev.wordpress.com/2013/07/01/lucky/
* http://hoydenabouttown.com/20130701.14435/recently-in-documenting-incidents-the-sff-harassment-revelations/
* http://www.likesbooks.com/blog/?p=10162 (another discussion of the larger issues and recent points about them)
* http://blogs.publishersweekly.com/blogs/beyondherbook/?p=8152 (another earlier post on a related topic, from June 7)
* http://makemeasammich.org/2013/07/01/sffragette-moving-sff-into-the-21st-century/
* http://blog.mrmaresca.com/2013/07/conventions-and-harassment.html
* http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2013/07/01/yes-there-is-sexism-in-science-fiction
* http://radishreviews.com/2013/07/01/harassment-and-the-back-channel/ (the problem of assuming backchannel info will take care of this and has a link roundup of larger discussion, some of which were already on this list, some of which are added below.)
* http://sweetmusic-27.livejournal.com/101014.html
* http://gillpolack.livejournal.com/1182721.html
* http://blairmacg.livejournal.com/80862.html
* http://anotherplace.wordpress.com/2013/07/01/a-little-more-on-con-harassment/

added July 2, evening
* http://www.popehat.com/2013/07/01/why-does-talking-about-creepers-and-harassment-make-people-so-angry/ (larger discussion, links to a bunch of posts.)
* http://hsifyppah.livejournal.com/665729.html
* http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/SFF_harassment_revelations_2013
* http://crimeandtheforcesofevil.com/blog/2013/07/power-and-supervillainy/ (crossposted to http://solarbird.livejournal.com/1170969.html)
* http://bunsen-h.livejournal.com/119148.html
* http://lizbourke.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/the-morning-after-mr-earbrass-was-conscious-but-very-little-more/
* http://courtney-schafer.blogspot.com/2013/07/boosting-signal.html
* http://allwritesreserved.wordpress.com/2013/06/29/enough-with-the-creeping/
* http://carriecuinn.com/2013/07/02/sexual-harassment-at-cons-part-2-how-to-stop-it-and-other-thoughts/
* http://www.mhpbooks.com/we-live-in-the-future-stop-being-a-damn-creep-at-science-fiction-conventions/

Added July 3, about 8pm ET
* http://www.shadowmanor.com/blog/?p=19067
* http://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/07/02/my-new-convention-harassment-policy/ (which provoked a whole bunch of other links below)
* http://www.jaredaxelrod.com/main/2013/07/02/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-con-harassment/ and crossposted at http://planetx.livejournal.com/517151.html
* http://storybones.blogspot.com/2013/07/linkee-poo-dear-god-i-do-believe-youve.html
* http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271144 (extended discussion: at the point I added it, it’s 23 pages.)
* http://courtney-schafer.blogspot.com/2013_07_01_archive.html
* http://www.slhuang.com/blog/2013/07/02/a-timeline-of-the-2013-sfwa-controversies/ (link roundup of the larger issues.)
* http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2013/07/01/yes-there-is-sexism-in-science-fiction
* http://itsroach.livejournal.com/48274.html
* http://annathepiper.livejournal.com/1186448.html
* http://marcy-italiano.livejournal.com/311211.html
* http://friendfeed.com/lsw/ce59a067/reporting-harassment-at-convention-first (which is from the 28th, but I didn’t spot it until today)
* http://de-sueification.blogspot.com/2013/07/thoughts-on-harassment-trigger-warning.html
* http://randomandcrafty.blogspot.com/2013/07/harassment-of-cosplayers-psa-from-your.html (specifically re: cosplay)
* http://nerdygirlonamission.com/2013/07/03/take-a-stand-against-sexual-harrasment-at-comic-conventions/
* http://www.mamohanraj.com/journal/show-entry.php?Entry_ID=7622 (some really interesting comments on how she felt the power dynamics shifted when she started being an editor)
* http://geekfeminism.org/2013/07/03/how-to-be-an-ally-speaker-edition/ - how-to follow up to Scalzi’s commitment.
* http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/dear-twelve-rabid-weasels-of-sfwa-please-shut-the-fuck-up/
* http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/2013/07/03/still-not-consent/ (re: the policy of Convergence)
* http://www.themarysue.com/john-scalzi-con-harassment/
* http://www.metafilter.com/129652/Reporting-Harassment-at-a-Convention-A-FirstPerson-How-To (with a number of comments and shared stories already: Metafilter’s mods work hard and generally do a good job keeping a functional conversation space going)
* http://cloggie.org/wissewords2/2013/07/03/reporting-harassment-at-a-convention-a-first-person-how-to/
* http://corabuhlert.com/2013/07/03/attack-of-the-girl-cooties/ Extended conversation (also links to past posts on this.)
* http://sartorias.livejournal.com/575141.html
* http://www.likesbooks.com/blog/?p=10162#more-10162
* http://groupthink.jezebel.com/sexual-harassment-in-scifi-putting-money-where-your-mo-656165108

added July 4, 10am ET
* http://sffragette.wordpress.com/ (general resource)
* https://www.facebook.com/Nerdiquette101 (general resource) also http://nerdiquette101.blogspot.com/
* http://wearawhitefeather.wordpress.com/ general resource
* http://liv.dreamwidth.org/406137.html
* http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2013/07/creepers-how-to-spot-one-how-to-be-one.html
* http://saundramitchell.com/blog/2013/07/03/harassment-stories-real-man
* http://sidneybristol.com/2013/06/28/sexual-harassment-is-never-okay/
* http://sinboy.livejournal.com/1305077.html

added July 5, morning
* http://mariadahvanaheadley.wordpress.com/2013/07/03/the-golden-age-of-science-fiction-swimming-club-more-thoughts-on-sff-sexism-racism-and-general-badness/
* http://www.winextra.com/culture-2/if-your-con-doesnt-have-clear-sexual-harassment-policies-dont-call-john-scalzi-to-speak/
* http://www.cranehanabooks.com/blog/2013/07/04/love-by-any-name-or-girl-cooties-part-2-adult-content-advisory/
* http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013/07/03/2251651/novelist-john-scalzi-says-he-wont-attend-conventions-without-strong-sexual-harassment-policies/
* http://bornofanatombomb.tumblr.com/post/54447395349/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-con-harassment
* http://katjevanloon.com/independence-from-harassment-hopefully-someday/
* http://aqueductpress.blogspot.com/2013/07/a-few-thoughts-about-freedom-of-speech.html (larger discussion of free speech and important speech)

Added July 5, about 8pm ET
* http://badger2305.dreamwidth.org/8365.html and http://badger2305.livejournal.com/102082.html
* http://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/07/05/convention-harassment-policy-follow-up/
* http://elflands2ndcousin.com/2013/07/05/a-healthy-dose-of-professionalism/

Added July 6, around 7:30pm ET
* http://unlikelyworlds.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/the-other-half-of-sky.html
* http://okazu.yuricon.com/2013/07/05/convention-harassment-and-what-we-can-all-do-to-help/
* http://apipiyalotl.livejournal.com/22001.html
* http://popseagullpublishing.wordpress.com/2013/07/06/pop-seagull-has-signed-john-scalzis-convention-harassment-policy-heres-the-scoop-on-why/
* http://www.jonathancrowe.net/2013/07/the-last-nerve.php

Added July 7, around 6pm ET
* http://madgeniusclub.com/2013/07/04/matters-of-perspective/
* http://www.doctornerdlove.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=1092 (begins with a linkround up, other conversation)
* http://radishreviews.com/2013/07/05/linkspam-7513-edition-part-2/ (linkspam - links not already included above included below, plus extended commentary on Alyssa Rosenberg’s piece on ThinkProgress, linked in the July 5 section.)
* http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/doing-good-science/2013/07/03/addressing-unintended-disrespect-in-your-professional-community/ (referneced in the above link roundup, and of interest)
* http://mizkit.com/sffragette/
* https://www.facebook.com/ShannaGermain/posts/10152985759860517
* http://lrcutter.livejournal.com/205164.html
* http://www.davidmcdonaldspage.com/2013/07/what-can-men-do-about-sexual-harassment-at-cons/

Added July 8, 9:30pm ET
* http://seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com/519653.html and http://seanan-mcguire.livejournal.com/520130.html picks up on something in the first post's comments (re: cosplay and harassment in particular.)
* http://jimhines.livejournal.com/687155.html
* http://hurban1.wordpress.com/2013/07/07/on-rights-speech-opinion-and-harassment-at-conventions/
* http://womenatconventions.tumblr.com/ (mostly reblogging of related topics, but an interesting tumblr)
* http://pickledthink.blogspot.com/2013_07_01_archive.html

Added July 10, 7pm ET
* http://yendi.livejournal.com/2343893.html (in response to http://www.jimchines.com/2013/06/how-to-report-sexual-harassment-by-elise-matthesen/comment-page-1/#comment-182732 )
* http://rose-lemberg.livejournal.com/354919.html (also about the above on Jim Hines’ blog)
* http://storify.com/foxvertebrae/fj-bergmann (also above)
* http://www.prezzey.net/2013/harassment-wiscon-safe-spaces/ (references the above, links to several other related posts)
* http://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/07/10/one-thousand-co-signers/
* http://www.jdstoffel.com/how-to-not-harass-women-a-guide-for-men/

Other relevant reading:
You may see a number of people reference the 'missing stair' - a great explanation of this explained is at The Pervocracy in a post from summer 2012.

A number of people also reference the Back-Up Ribbon Project, which distributes ribbons at SF (and a few other) conventions with the goal that people know there are people around (those wearing the ribbons) who will help them if they feel uncomfortable.

Other older posts that have gotten some reference include:
* http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/2012/09/09/we-dont-do-that-anymore/
* http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/08/09/an-incomplete-guide-to-not-creeping/
* http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_incidents (referenced just above, but of interest) (added July 1)

A final note
I am aware that there is at least one post out there that is not linked above: it has, in my opinion, no redeeming content, and I do not wish to increase the poster's hit count or visibility by linking.

If you are doing your own link round up, I would be glad to share it in private (you can PM me through Dreamwidth, or leave a comment here with a way to reach you or whatever else makes sense.)

Signal boosts
(Posts which at the time I put them in basically were just copying the original post with no new major comment)

ETA: A note about the signal boosts: the links are here so that (theoretically) one could check and see if they've acquired new significant comment/conversations. However, there are a lot of other places that the links have appeared (especially as blog roll links on various Blogspot posts. I have been a tad less diligent tracking those down than links with new discussion or content.

June 28
* http://theshadowpanther.dreamwidth.org/130100.html
* http://tapati.livejournal.com/738705.html
* http://pony.livejournal.com/7186.html
* http://shadesong.livejournal.com/4467580.html
* http://fjm.livejournal.com/1254231.html
* http://burger-eater.livejournal.com/998440.html
* http://kittent.org/2013/06/28/sexual-harassment-a-guide-for-reporting/
* http://untitledunited.wordpress.com/2013/06/28/reporting-harassment-at-a-convention-a-first-person-how-to/
* http://yendi.livejournal.com/2338034.html
* http://dreampunkgeek.wordpress.com/2013/06/28/reporting-harassment-at-a-convention-a-first-person-how-to/
* http://smallbeerpress.com/not-a-journal/2013/06/28/on-sexual-harassment-at-conventions-elise-matthesn-speaks-out/
* http://pameladean.livejournal.com/152685.html
* http://truepenny.livejournal.com/862137.html
* http://jrjohnson.me/2013/06/28/reporting-harassment-at-a-convention-a-first-person-how-to/
* http://sjwar.blogspot.com/2013/06/for-people-who-came-to-this-blog.html
* http://redbird.livejournal.com/1395567.html
added June 29
* http://hurban1.wordpress.com/2013/06/29/but-he-didnt-know-he-was-hijacking-your-ship-on-conference-creeps/
* http://smallbeerpress.com/not-a-journal/2013/06/28/on-sexual-harassment-at-conventions-elise-matthesn-speaks-out
* http://fangirlblog.com/2013/06/fangirls-around-the-web-june-30-2013/
* http://www.jlake.com/2013/06/29/links-link-salad-sets-out-to-lose-another-award/
* http://nicoleandmaggie.wordpress.com/2013/06/29/link-love-74/
* http://gwox.livejournal.com/81866.html
* http://mariadahvanaheadley.wordpress.com/2013/06/30/pirates-of-despair-neon-how-not-to-be-a-convention-creep/
* http://piratesobg.wordpress.com/2013/06/29/reporting-harassment-at-a-convention-a-first-person-how-to/
* http://kaitlinandmichaelbranch.com/2013/07/01/but-he-didnt-know-he-was-hijacking-your-ship-on-conference-creeps/
* http://news.ansible.co.uk/a312.html#10
*http://piratesobg.wordpress.com/2013/06/29/reporting-harassment-at-a-convention-a-first-person-how-to/
* http://kaitlinandmichaelbranch.com/2013/07/01/but-he-didnt-know-he-was-hijacking-your-ship-on-conference-creeps/
* http://news.ansible.co.uk/a312.html#10
* http://jenniferkoliver.livejournal.com/58376.html
added July 4 (some of the above were added in the meantime, too)
* http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight (sidelight link)
* http://annathepiper.livejournal.com/1188021.html
* http://skepchick.org/2013/07/skepchick-quickies-7-4-2/
* http://www.neomujer.com/reporting-harassment-at-a-convention-a-first-person-how-to/
* http://women2.com/reporting-harassment-at-a-convention-a-first-person-how-to/
* http://mfennwrites.wordpress.com/2013/07/03/link-treats/
added July 5
* http://www.lbgale.com/2013/07/04/sexual-harassment-a-growing-problem-on-the-convention-floor/
* http://cloggie.org/wissewords2/2013/07/03/reporting-harassment-at-a-convention-a-first-person-how-to/
Added July 7
* http://jennabowman.wordpress.com/2013/07/05/convention-harassment-movement/
added July 10
* http://geekfeminism.org/2013/07/09/how-is-linkspam-formed-9-july-2013/
* http://randomalex.net/2013/07/07/
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[personal profile] cheyinka 2013-06-29 00:31 (UTC)(link)
Brandon Sanderson's blog indeed doesn't have comments. His LiveJournal ([livejournal.com profile] mistborn) does but hasn't gotten any on that post.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-29 05:25 (UTC)(link)
The great irony of Jim Frenkel's 1990 appearance on a panel about women in SF, coming down against chauvinism in the genre (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/14c0bcf164/women-in-sf): "Keith [DeCandido] and Judy discuss the role of women in science fiction with librarian Alice Down, editor James Frenkel, and author Susan Schwartz." (Panel starts around 12:50)
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[personal profile] laceblade 2013-07-03 16:52 (UTC)(link)
Thanks very much for this round-up, it's very useful! I'll be passing it along to members of the convention planning committee I'm on - it can be hard for people to keep track of online discussions.
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[personal profile] honeyfeather 2013-07-04 04:10 (UTC)(link)
Wow that is an extensive link roundup.

Thanks for this Jenett! I will definitely be reading for long time.

Now. To hunt down all the cons I *can* go to, as I've just co-signed Scalzi's new policy policy.

-Kat/Morag
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[personal profile] metaphortunate 2013-07-04 16:29 (UTC)(link)
Wow, that's a lot of work. Thanks for curating!